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SO WHERE DID THE SCHMUCK GET THIS BRIGHT IDEA?

The idea of forcing the residents of both Hilldale and Colorado City to give up all their land and homes to cousin Brucie or have their towns dis-Incorporated was a strange one given the fact that both States Constitutions call for the locals to have to literally vote the towns out of existence. Having already ruined his chances at a Senatorial seat and making him use the bogus BS of “His children” as the excuse to drop out, shirtless seems to be tiring of the anvil draped around his neck known as the U.E.P. I’m sure he rues the day he listened to Dan Fisher.

It sounded like a fruitcake idea to me and did a little looking around. First, you don’t just make towns and cities in Utah and Arizona disappear because you don’t like the color of the dresses they wear or because they won’t put on kneepads to your “Authority”. Second, besides using the U.E.P. as a tool to extort, what does the Trust and Incorporation have to do with each other?

The choice the FLDS now have is singular according to shirtless:

They can hand over their town on a silver platter to Brucie to chop up and sell for his “Fee”

or,

The Trust will be awarded to Brucie and their towns will be wiped off the maps.

WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE?

So, who was the brain surgion that came up with this “Choice”?

The Great “Protector” of the Trust herself;

Judge suggests disincorporating cult-dominated

Hildale, Colorado City

January 24th, 2007 -

A Utah judge says the the attorneys general of both Utah and Arizona should look at forced disincorporation for the polygamist towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona.

That change in status would put the neighboring towns under county management.

Third District Judge Denise Lindberg suggested the action as a way to bring a halt to the lack of cooperation from elected officials and law enforcement.

The Utah court has managed the property trust of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints for almost two years. But officials and town marshals have not worked well with the court-appointed administrator for the United Effort Plan Trust. (Tough to work with an asshole who is charging a million a year to “Protect” the Trust’s assets.)

The A-G’s office in Utah says it’s looked at challenging Hildale’s incorporation but decided not to act at this time. (He knows it will go to Federal Court for the next 5 to 10 years, and he can’t bill the Trust like Brucie does.)

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  1. An even earlier suggestion was from Mohave supervisor and AAAP president Buster Johnson, as reported by Brooke on her blog in 2006:


    Busting up the cities?

    I spoke today to Mohave County Supervisor Buster Johnson. His jurisdiction doesn’t include Colorado City, but he has nevertheless made the polygamous community an agenda item.

    So I asked him about a rumor going around that someone wants to disenfranchise the twin towns.

    The Supervisor told me he wrote a month ago to Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard to inquire if it was possible to decertify the entire police department and the town council in one fell swoop…

    _______

    Buster Johnson is a complete fascist, and he sounds so much like Blues that you have to wonder. By coincidence, there was another Buster Johnson who was a bluesman, and another Johnson who was actually known as the Texas Blues Man.

    1. Julie on February 14th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

  2. Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
    — Thomas Jefferson

    2. * on February 5th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

  3. Bigots and haters are also busy bodies and they just can’t let anyone be different or have a different world view or religion than what they, in their infantile arrogance, claim is right.

    Genocide is being practiced against the FLDS. The best way to stop the genocide is to make more FLDS members–raise the birth rate.

    Swamp the land with FLDS folks, and the haters and bigots will lose.

    3. Bob on February 5th, 2010 at 11:21 am

  4. If you look at the FLDS history you see that all the claims of them being hostage to the FLDS authority (or it’s leaders) is untrue. Those in the FLDS have had opportunity after opportunity to leave. The FLDS raid in 2008 and those in the past have shown that when given that opportunity they not only don’t deprive their own but come together in the face of persecution.

    Those in the FLDS have the freedom to leave and many have. No one is held hostage at gun point. Up until a member bought the YFZ ranch they lived in rather free open neighborhoods, but you can blame the government for them having to move onto Hutterite style compounds.

    If the goal of taking over the FLDS communal holdings is to destroy the FLDS people than the government will fail. If the goal is to take over assets of a community in order to profit they may succeed in the short term. The FLDS has been in far worst conditions than they are today, there was a time when the FLDS (their ancestors) numbered just 500 people and lived on shack like dwellings. I think if FLDS ancestors could survive raids in the 30s, 40s, 50s, and come out stronger and united, than I don’t see how this persecution will be any different.

    The government seems to think that if they kick the FLDS off the property their ancestors built and farmed that the FLDS people won’t be adapt enough to survive and move. We have already seen that isn’t the case as members have already bought other communal assets not linked with the twin cities holdings.

    The governments is probably telling themselves that destroying communal holdings will destroy religious people. They honestly believe strong religious communities thrive only when the community is entrapped in communal society, but that is hardly the case and definitely not the case with some of the most conservative religious groups such as Amish and Orthodox Jews. What makes a strong community is the people, the culture, the faith and not UEP type holdings. If each FLDS member was to buy their own land (like the Amish) instead of placing it into a UEP trust how than would the government be able to do what their trying to do? They’d probably invent something else in order to destroy individual FLDS assets.

    4. plainly seen on February 4th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

  5. kent: “Hint: Somebody has spent a fortune with the goal in mind of destroying Warren and all who follow him, has no interest in financial gain from what the FLDS face.”

    —
    And the first anti-FLDS comments on this letter showed up on Fox13. This was the prolific Stamp, whose location was shown as South Jordan, UT. Coincidentally, South Jordan is the home of Ultradent.

    5. Julie on February 4th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

  6. Julie:
    “… Did someone rattle his cage?”

    Somebody saw to that the LETTER TO FLDS ATTORNEYS was leaked to Ben Winslow, and I’ll guarantee you it was not the FLDS or their attorneys.

    That letter was Cc’s to:

    A - Bruce Wisan;

    B - Jeffery Shields;

    C - William Richards; and

    D - Roger Hoole.

    Pick one.

    Hint: Somebody has spent a fortune with the goal in mind of destroying Warren and all who follow him, has no interest in financial gain from what the FLDS face.

    6. kent on February 4th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

  7. Shirtless has been left to look foolish by those who persuaded him to start this mess.

    Follow the money.

    The real mystery is the reason WHY one who is not only an attorney, but the Attorney General for the State of Utah, would hope to accomplish with this frivolous threat. I would hope he has enough control over his emotions that he could read what he wrote before delivering this letter.

    If we rule out him as being unable to control himself, as we should (see agreement below), then we’re left with him doing only what he could for some reason.

    Could that reason be the result of outside control here?

    Somebody holding him to do it or else…?

    He was all dandy with the AGREEMENT he’d reached with the FLDS, but now it seems he’s SCREAMING disapproval from:

    Lindberg;

    Brucie;

    The Arizona Attorney General; and of course

    Dan (though he’s not running to tell the media!).

    Who is holding the ace card?

    7. kent on February 4th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

  8. The bottom line here is that I would tell Dan, Denise, Mark and Brucie to GFTS and start filing with the State as squatters on the land and homes that they’ve lived on with no one telling them to move off for decades.

    It’s not a renter/tenant situation, and the fact that they have been there on the property was certainly public knowledge.

    Look up the Law and they are on point in all four corners of the Statute.

    I think Julie is correct; this is a last ditch effort on shitless’s part to try to bulldoze his way through this mess.

    He’s better off telling Wisan to come to a “Settlement” or he’ll lose the option of getting paid for any of his past “Work” for the benefit of the Trust.

    Wisan doesn’t give a shit about the non FLDS or the hole bros, he just wants his 3 million for him and his lawyer pals.

    Give Wisan the option of either screwing the holes or lose his stolen booty and he’ll flip on them in a heartbeat.

    8. Bill on February 4th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

  9. I’m not surprised that Shurtleff plagiarized his threats, but I am that he suddenly woke up. Did someone rattle his cage? Did Wisan call him and suggest that, should the high court rule against the state’s economic pogrom, he might not shred all the embarrassing documents–especially those with Shurtleff’s name on them?

    9. Julie on February 4th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

  10. So the AG of Utah changed his mind?

    10. Alinusara10 on February 4th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

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