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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dormette</title>
		<link>http://www.flds.ws/2010/02/02/a-letter-from-raymond-jessop/#comment-79419</link>
		<dc:creator>Dormette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am literally sick of the barbaric inhumanity of this so called "civilized free nation'. There is a plague of mental illness in this country due to having been "indoctrinated". 


I hope you can see now that this Prussian theory of workplaces and schools isn't just some historical oddity, but is necessary to explain customary textbook structure and classroom procedures, which fly in the face of how people actually learn. It explains the inordinate interest the foundations of Rockefeller and Camegie took in shaping early compulsory schooling around a standardized factory model, and it sheds light on many mysterious aspects of modem American culture: for instance, why, in a democracy, can't citizens be automatically registered at birth to vote, once and for all? 
  
Compulsory schooling has been, from the beginning, a scheme of indoctrination into the new concept of mass man, an important part of which was the creation of a proletariat. According to Auguste Comte (surely the godfather of scientific schooling), you could create a useful proletariat class by breaking connections between children and their families, their communities, their God, and themselves. Remember William Harris's belief that self-alienation was the key to successful schooling! Of course it is. These connections have to be broken to create a dependable citizenry because, if left alive, the loyalties they foster are unpredictable and unmanageable. 
http://www.spinninglobe.net/condunces.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am literally sick of the barbaric inhumanity of this so called &#8220;civilized free nation&#8217;. There is a plague of mental illness in this country due to having been &#8220;indoctrinated&#8221;. </p>
<p>I hope you can see now that this Prussian theory of workplaces and schools isn&#8217;t just some historical oddity, but is necessary to explain customary textbook structure and classroom procedures, which fly in the face of how people actually learn. It explains the inordinate interest the foundations of Rockefeller and Camegie took in shaping early compulsory schooling around a standardized factory model, and it sheds light on many mysterious aspects of modem American culture: for instance, why, in a democracy, can&#8217;t citizens be automatically registered at birth to vote, once and for all? </p>
<p>Compulsory schooling has been, from the beginning, a scheme of indoctrination into the new concept of mass man, an important part of which was the creation of a proletariat. According to Auguste Comte (surely the godfather of scientific schooling), you could create a useful proletariat class by breaking connections between children and their families, their communities, their God, and themselves. Remember William Harris&#8217;s belief that self-alienation was the key to successful schooling! Of course it is. These connections have to be broken to create a dependable citizenry because, if left alive, the loyalties they foster are unpredictable and unmanageable.<br />
<a href="http://www.spinninglobe.net/condunces.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.spinninglobe.net/condunces.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cupcake</title>
		<link>http://www.flds.ws/2010/02/02/a-letter-from-raymond-jessop/#comment-78798</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupcake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane:

I knew it wasn't you, and I told them so. Then they asked if it was my daughter. No. Not her either. 

Someone also said that they had given me thumbs up on some posts, but the SLT system gave me thumbs down. She advised asking the moderater if there is a glitch in the system. Not sure if I believe her. Anyone on our side is automatically given thumbs down. Doesn't matter what we say. It's always been like that. Thumbs down is an indication of the hatred that the KS feel toward us. Thumbs down is also an indication of the hatred and bigotry they feel toward the FLDS, not a glitch in a system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane:</p>
<p>I knew it wasn&#8217;t you, and I told them so. Then they asked if it was my daughter. No. Not her either. </p>
<p>Someone also said that they had given me thumbs up on some posts, but the SLT system gave me thumbs down. She advised asking the moderater if there is a glitch in the system. Not sure if I believe her. Anyone on our side is automatically given thumbs down. Doesn&#8217;t matter what we say. It&#8217;s always been like that. Thumbs down is an indication of the hatred that the KS feel toward us. Thumbs down is also an indication of the hatred and bigotry they feel toward the FLDS, not a glitch in a system.</p>
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		<title>By: duane</title>
		<link>http://www.flds.ws/2010/02/02/a-letter-from-raymond-jessop/#comment-78796</link>
		<dc:creator>duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no Cupcake, I never hijacked a screen name. I have posted as anonymous and random names a few times on some blogs in order to protect my "anonymity".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no Cupcake, I never hijacked a screen name. I have posted as anonymous and random names a few times on some blogs in order to protect my &#8220;anonymity&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupcake</title>
		<link>http://www.flds.ws/2010/02/02/a-letter-from-raymond-jessop/#comment-78788</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupcake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane,

I think you should know that some people were accusing you of hijacking Betty2468's screen name and posting under that name at the SLT site yesterday. I told them that I did not think it was you.

I don't understand why Betty2468 continues to post under that screenname. She knows that multiple people use that screenname (or variations of it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane,</p>
<p>I think you should know that some people were accusing you of hijacking Betty2468&#8217;s screen name and posting under that name at the SLT site yesterday. I told them that I did not think it was you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why Betty2468 continues to post under that screenname. She knows that multiple people use that screenname (or variations of it.)</p>
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		<title>By: duaneh</title>
		<link>http://www.flds.ws/2010/02/02/a-letter-from-raymond-jessop/#comment-78786</link>
		<dc:creator>duaneh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cupcake, the answer is no. Kdee Ignatin goes by Boots. I'm not sure if she posts on the SLT. She runs the TripleAsses blog.
Betty, Magadelana and Betty2468 are the same person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cupcake, the answer is no. Kdee Ignatin goes by Boots. I&#8217;m not sure if she posts on the SLT. She runs the TripleAsses blog.<br />
Betty, Magadelana and Betty2468 are the same person.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupcake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cupcake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane,

Does Kdee aka Boots also go by the screen names Magdalena and/or Betty2468 at the SLT site? 

I think she's the one who claims to be the "original Betty," although several other people have posted there using similar screen names. How can anyone claim to be the "original Betty?" Betty is a nickname for Elizabeth, a name that has been popular for centuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane,</p>
<p>Does Kdee aka Boots also go by the screen names Magdalena and/or Betty2468 at the SLT site? </p>
<p>I think she&#8217;s the one who claims to be the &#8220;original Betty,&#8221; although several other people have posted there using similar screen names. How can anyone claim to be the &#8220;original Betty?&#8221; Betty is a nickname for Elizabeth, a name that has been popular for centuries.</p>
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		<title>By: dazzle</title>
		<link>http://www.flds.ws/2010/02/02/a-letter-from-raymond-jessop/#comment-78768</link>
		<dc:creator>dazzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting tit bit! 


Girl, 9, Gives Birth to Baby Boy
Feb 02, 2010 8:07 AM ESTA
 9-year-old girl has given birth to a healthy child in northeast China, MX reported Tuesday.The baby, reportedly a boy, was delivered via Caesarean section on January 27 and weighed in at 6 pounds.Circumstances surrounding the girl's pregnancy were unknown, but her parents have sought legal help, according to the City Evening News, as sex with a child under the age of 14 brings with it an automatic rape conviction.Despite the young age of the mother, who is from Songyuan, and the potential for severe complications, it has been reported the mother and her new baby are doing fine.The baby was delivered at Changchun hospital, in the Jilin province. The nursing staff refused to comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting tit bit! </p>
<p>Girl, 9, Gives Birth to Baby Boy<br />
Feb 02, 2010 8:07 AM ESTA<br />
 9-year-old girl has given birth to a healthy child in northeast China, MX reported Tuesday.The baby, reportedly a boy, was delivered via Caesarean section on January 27 and weighed in at 6 pounds.Circumstances surrounding the girl&#8217;s pregnancy were unknown, but her parents have sought legal help, according to the City Evening News, as sex with a child under the age of 14 brings with it an automatic rape conviction.Despite the young age of the mother, who is from Songyuan, and the potential for severe complications, it has been reported the mother and her new baby are doing fine.The baby was delivered at Changchun hospital, in the Jilin province. The nursing staff refused to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Maayan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i read this and i laugh!! Because texas laws are used whenever they want to use them and with the persons they want to use it.
When i travel by car to the US i have to get out of my car and get my i95 permit because i have a colombian passport. But when i go with my hubby who is mexican and my children they dont make me get out of my car. The funny thing is that when i go alone i even get an orange paper that says terrorist alert cause i was born in israel!!!

On January i had a bar mitva at mcallen texas. Mexicans get their USA visa on a card sort of a credit card valid for 10 years lol. But i ased for my youngest daughter at the embassy for the visa stamped on the passport because we had a trip to miami and i needed it ASAP 3 years ago. Also the mexican passport for younger ones untll they are 5 years old is valid for one year so i always have to take with me two passports the one with the visa and the non expired one. But this time when we where on the bridge and i too out everyones documents i realized i left home the passport with the visa AND THAT THE LiTTLE ONE´S PASSPORT EXPiRED 5 DAYS BEFORE" i was really nervous and gave all the documents to the customs guy. And guess what????? He even made us open the door of the SUV and he goes who is this one and who is that one and he said ok have a nice weeend!!!
ROFL!!! to tell you the truth my mother had traveled from florida to see us at our cousins bar mitzva and i was really happy that i was going to see her and the children where going to be with her but on the other side i wished i had a camera with me to show the world how corrupt the sistem is!! And this was after Obama said USA had fixed their security. so listen a 4 year old with an expired passport and an NO ViSA got into mcallen!!!

So much for texas laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a totally anti mormon law. They use them whenever they want to with the persons they dont like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i read this and i laugh!! Because texas laws are used whenever they want to use them and with the persons they want to use it.<br />
When i travel by car to the US i have to get out of my car and get my i95 permit because i have a colombian passport. But when i go with my hubby who is mexican and my children they dont make me get out of my car. The funny thing is that when i go alone i even get an orange paper that says terrorist alert cause i was born in israel!!!</p>
<p>On January i had a bar mitva at mcallen texas. Mexicans get their USA visa on a card sort of a credit card valid for 10 years lol. But i ased for my youngest daughter at the embassy for the visa stamped on the passport because we had a trip to miami and i needed it ASAP 3 years ago. Also the mexican passport for younger ones untll they are 5 years old is valid for one year so i always have to take with me two passports the one with the visa and the non expired one. But this time when we where on the bridge and i too out everyones documents i realized i left home the passport with the visa AND THAT THE LiTTLE ONE´S PASSPORT EXPiRED 5 DAYS BEFORE&#8221; i was really nervous and gave all the documents to the customs guy. And guess what????? He even made us open the door of the SUV and he goes who is this one and who is that one and he said ok have a nice weeend!!!<br />
ROFL!!! to tell you the truth my mother had traveled from florida to see us at our cousins bar mitzva and i was really happy that i was going to see her and the children where going to be with her but on the other side i wished i had a camera with me to show the world how corrupt the sistem is!! And this was after Obama said USA had fixed their security. so listen a 4 year old with an expired passport and an NO ViSA got into mcallen!!!</p>
<p>So much for texas laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>This is a totally anti mormon law. They use them whenever they want to with the persons they dont like.</p>
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		<title>By: duaneh1</title>
		<link>http://www.flds.ws/2010/02/02/a-letter-from-raymond-jessop/#comment-78761</link>
		<dc:creator>duaneh1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, there is a huge difference between a pre-pubescent 8 year old being sexually molested by an adult and a sexually mature D-cup 16 year old girl enthusiastically "going to town" on an older dude. I had several female classmates in high school who dated guys in the 20's and 30's.
You hear about about that 15 year old back in the 80's who obtained a fake id and performed in numerous porn flicks? Her name was Traci Lords. Funny thing is not one of the millions of customers who watched these tapes suspected she was just a "little girl". Only when someone did some research did they all cry "kiddie porn"!!

How about the undercover cops who asked the 13 year old prostitute for a "blow job"? I bet they were enjoying their work. I wouldn't be suprised if this girl was arrested because she refused to give them a "freebie". I heard something like 20% of streetwalker's johns are undercover police who get "freebies" in exchange for "protection".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, there is a huge difference between a pre-pubescent 8 year old being sexually molested by an adult and a sexually mature D-cup 16 year old girl enthusiastically &#8220;going to town&#8221; on an older dude. I had several female classmates in high school who dated guys in the 20&#8217;s and 30&#8217;s.<br />
You hear about about that 15 year old back in the 80&#8217;s who obtained a fake id and performed in numerous porn flicks? Her name was Traci Lords. Funny thing is not one of the millions of customers who watched these tapes suspected she was just a &#8220;little girl&#8221;. Only when someone did some research did they all cry &#8220;kiddie porn&#8221;!!</p>
<p>How about the undercover cops who asked the 13 year old prostitute for a &#8220;blow job&#8221;? I bet they were enjoying their work. I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised if this girl was arrested because she refused to give them a &#8220;freebie&#8221;. I heard something like 20% of streetwalker&#8217;s johns are undercover police who get &#8220;freebies&#8221; in exchange for &#8220;protection&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron in Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ron The fact that these young women do not regard themselves as victims is significant.&lt;/i&gt;

You know Thomas, I think there is something to that argument.  Obviously Judge Conn in Arizona must have considered it when he sentenced the folks before him.

Of course the counter argument is one of indoctrination.

Either way, that's more a punishment argument than a legally guilty argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ron The fact that these young women do not regard themselves as victims is significant.</i></p>
<p>You know Thomas, I think there is something to that argument.  Obviously Judge Conn in Arizona must have considered it when he sentenced the folks before him.</p>
<p>Of course the counter argument is one of indoctrination.</p>
<p>Either way, that&#8217;s more a punishment argument than a legally guilty argument.</p>
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