Comments on: HOW THE NEW GAME IS PLAYED. IT’S THE JURY’S CHOICE

By: Cupcake

Cupcake — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:08:15 +0000

It’s true that the LDS Mormons have missionaries who go door to door. The FLDS Mormons do not.

The FLDS prophet, John Barlow, served on a mission for the LDS church before he was excommunicated by the LDS church for practicing polygamy. John Barlow was Pliggy’s grandfather.

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:49:23 +0000

One day the lemmings will wake up and wonder where their freedom went.

They gave it away to the Gestapo and the government piece by piece, all in the name of appeasement.

As Neville Chamberlain found out the hard way, you cannot appease a tyrant, and that is exactly what our government has become.

By: Christmas Jacobs

Christmas Jacobs — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:33:03 +0000

I don’t believe the sentence the jury dishes out will reflect whether or not they think
he willingly hurt anyone. - It will reflect what the jurors think their friends and family want him to serve.
Raymond and Janet will not be among them - but they (the jurors will have to live with the “ya shoulda sentenced him to this many years or that many year”.

But as the FLDS lady says, “what they mete out in the name of justice - must surely return to them again. The citizens of this country do not realize how tightly they,ve wrapped the noose of tyranny around their own necks by what they condone the state of TX doing to us”

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Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:16:26 +0000

[…] I’m still not happy about Raymond being convicted without a clear showing of jurisdiction as well as the use of stolen documents taken illegally, but let’s face it, if barbie were doing the sentencing, he gets an automatic 20 years. […]

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:09:25 +0000

I agree 100%.

The good news is that it only bolsters the Appeal.

20 years for merely joining his fellow Texan’s as the State with the largest numbers of teen births is excessive in anyone’s mind except a bigot.

The FACT that the women was already 16, and already had a child before she married Raymond HAS to be considered, and puts him on the lower end of the sentencing scale.

If not Raymond, what does it take to get the lower sentence? The mitigating factors are all with Raymond and against the sentence barbie wants them to produce.

Add one more Appeal Point; “Cruel and unusual punishment” to the pile.

By: zxcvbnm

zxcvbnm — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:32:57 +0000

If anyone thinks for one minute thet Raymond won’t get the maximum they are not from this planet.

How many jurors were members of the FLDS were called for jury duty? How many potentential FLDS jurors were even questioneda dureing the selection process. If potential FLDS jurors were even seated as part of the selection provecs where were they seated and were they positioned in such an order as to avoid being chosen?
In a small town or a small county everyone knows the opinions of their neighbors and with the distinctive dress of the FLDS it is easy to avoid selecting a biased group. Just talk with any of the minorities sitting in Texas prisons if the jury was a group of their peers.

Fair trial in Texas……….forget it. Equal protection by the law.forget it. Barbie runs a fiefdom and the serfs will do her bidding or suffer the consequences..all within the law of course.

By: Ron in Houston

Ron in Houston — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:19:47 +0000

Unless they say they’re willing to give probation, the defense has disqualified them to serve on the jury. So everybody on the jury now had to say they’d consider probation.

Raymond has one of the best lawyers in the state. He knows how to pick a jury and who he can get disqualified.

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:58:30 +0000

Then there is nothing wrong with him making that statement:

Apologize to the Jury for being a Mormon in Texas.

He had no intentions of offending their sensibilities
and certainly had no intentions of speading his Faith beyond his own people.

The FLDS, unlike the LDS DO NOT send Missionaries door to door and they are NOT looking for converts from the Juries families.

By: Julie

Julie — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:03:14 +0000

I see nothing to be gained by making a statement to the jury. If Raymond’s lawyers are shooting for a fourth amendment reversal, doesn’t matter what sentence they give him. Beyond that, with the prosecution putting on so many witnesses attacking Raymond’s religion, the maximum sentence would be the best demonstration that this is not the prosecution of a man, but of his church.