BARBIE’S POGROM ROLLS ON, RAYMOND’S HEAD IS HELD HIGH.

None of the past 20 month’s is new to the Mormons on the Ranch, they have been battling persecution and bigotry all their lives.

Today’s verdict was not unexpected, it’s very difficult to do battle with ignorant individuals who assume everything their government tells them is true.

Those who dare to not follow in lock-step, are jailed, discredited, or roasted to death.

To me, Raymond joins a very long and distinguished group of men, women and even children who were beaten, jailed, and even killed for daring to hold onto their Faith.

In the Book of Mormon, several persons die and are honored as martyrs. The prophet Abinadi is the most notable example (Mosiah 12:1-17:1). Others include the women and children of Ammonihah who were burned to death for their beliefs (Alma 14:1-10). At the death of those women and children, the prophet Alma₂ assured his friend amulek that “the Lord receiveth them up unto himself, in glory” (Alma 14:11).

The Doctrine and Covenants teaches that “all they who have given their lives for [God’s] name shall be crowned” (D&C 101:15) and that the blood of the innocent ascends to God “in testimony” (D&C 109:49; cf. 98:13). In this connection, members of the Church refer to the murder of Joseph and Hyrum Smith as “the martyrdom of Joseph Smith the Prophet, and Hyrum Smith the Patriarch” (D&C 135:1). The Lord spoke through Brigham Young that “it was needful that [Joseph Smith] should seal his testimony with his blood, that he might be honored and the wicked might be condemned” (D&C 136:39; cf. 135).

Those are the words that Raymond still lives by, even when his fellow Mormon’s abandon the teachings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young; Even when he loses his freedom, his belongings, his home; Even as the cell door shuts behind him, he has his Faith, his dignity, his community and his Family and true friends behind him.

The bigots and the haters need someone like Raymond around. If it wasn’t the Mormon’s, they would go after the Hispanics, or the Jews, or the blacks. Like a bully in a school yard, they will only go after the meekest among themselves. Those who they know won’t fight back, or will flee in terror of them. Lift a fist to them or dare to challenge them, and they fold like the cowards they are.

What they have wrongly done to Raymond needs to be challenged, and it needs to be challenged in the only meaningful way they understand; in Court with lawsuits that will rock their bigoted world to it’s core.

I implore the FLDS leadership to stand up to the tyranny that they want to heap upon your religion until they have destroyed it, along with your women and children. They have no problem attacking your children, and have even promised to do it again. The only way you will be left in peace is to make it so prohibitively expensive for them to attack you, that they capitulate and go find an easier target to make themselves feel superior to.

As for Raymond, his friends support him with the same tenacity that we supported the children with, and as with the children, we will rest when you are once again free to practice your religion despite barbie’s persecution.

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As far as Dr. Beall is concerned, put up Betty. He tried to brainwash her, and it didn’t work.

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An interesting suggestion, though the jurors would probably just shake their heads and cluck their tongues–so sad he couldn’t save her.

1. Julie on November 7th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Also, take a look at the Modern Pharisee.

If you want to accept as a source someone who says:

I personally don’t know the workings of the court

Then you guys go right ahead. Just don’t get mad at me when I call you morons.

2. Ron in Houston on November 7th, 2009 at 1:59 am
Geez, I thought you guys didn’t trust Brooke. Just because she doesn’t know about it, therefore, it must be a “rush job?”

Hmmm, apparently Raymond’s attorneys knew about it. They were there to question the witnesses.

Sounds to me like it wasn’t a rush job so much as it was some agreement that Brooke for whatever reason may have missed.

3. Ron in Houston on November 7th, 2009 at 1:56 am
If I had just been convicted of sexually assaulting my loving wife, I’d want her to tell the jury just want she thinks of the idea of her husband going to prison. I’d want her to tell what she thinks of the state’s involvement in her family. I wouldn’t even have a problem with her telling the jurors what she thinks of their decision, or telling the judge just what she thought of her. I would want my wife’s perspective to be heard.

4. Brent Hartman on November 7th, 2009 at 1:22 am
I didn’t know it was a secret that there was going to be a hearing today. That’s what I said was going to happen 9:00 this morning.

I also said that the Ranch lawyers knew nothing about the removal of Bellow before it happened.

Once again, if barbie is going to put up the maggots against Raymond and inflame the jury, I would insist that the defense be allowed to put up the women on the Ranch, who the maggots all claim are brainwashed nitwits.

Most especially, Janet herself.

As far as Dr. Beall is concerned, put up Betty. He tried to brainwash her, and it didn’t work.

5. Bill on November 7th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Also, take a look at the Modern Pharisee.

6. THOMAS on November 7th, 2009 at 12:01 am
The details are on Brooke Adams Plural Life Blog.

7. THOMAS on November 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Thomas: Barbara Walther tried to do a rush job today on the sentecing phase using Dan Fischer’s favorite doctor, Larry Beal.

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What did Beall do, hypnotize the courtroom?

8. Julie on November 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Barbara Walther tried to do a rush job today on the sentecing phase using Dan Fischer’s favorite doctor, Larry Beal.

9. THOMAS on November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
I don’t think the President would be interested. At least Bush wasn’t interested during the raid.

What about appealing to the U.N.?

10. Cupcake on November 6th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
I just want to go to the states, study law, and help the FLDS, its just not fair, the trial was NOT a fair one, and the lawyer managed things the stupid way, For once they have to EXPLAIN how the religions work!! I know what it is to be followed because of your religion, we have the holocaust to remember and to teach our children. Wasnt this enough? why is it happening again!!!
And this is just the first trial, what can we do so this kids dont suffer anymore?
Its just not fair, I cant stand bigots and something has to be done ASAP.
What about involving the president? sending a collective letter? I mean, Bush was full of it, maybe this one understands polygamy a little better cause he has it in his blood.
I dont understand why texas keeps on wasting money on stupidity while they have terrorism on their land (like yesterday)

so what can we do to help?

11. Maayan on November 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
This has never been about the children from day one. The DA’s crocodile tears for the child is a joke. You don’t come after people with tanks and snipers in riot gear and then claim you are there to “Protect” the children.

Barbie did every single thing possible to those children to traumatize them to the max. In better days, she would have been burned at the stake as a witch.

12. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
So far there is no consequences to violating the Constitution, the highest law in the US, in order to enforce the law. So very annoying.

Also annoying. Those who sanctimously state this is all about the children, yet don’t care about the consequences to the children in these cases.

13. Alinusara10 on November 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Mayaan,

At the beginning of this whole thing I said something similar. I was wondering why babies weren’t being rounded up from all the teenage moms in inner city America.

What about that group of high school girls, I think it was in the NorthEast somewhere, that had a pregnancy pact and all had babies in high school???

It’s absolutely tragic that the FLDS continue to be persecuted for their beliefs.

I have a teenage daughter, and I’d pitch a fit if she wanted to get married and have babies now. That doesn’t mean it’s not right/just - she’s more than capable of making decisions for herself.. Just because it’s not right for me.. doesn’t make it not right in general

Live and let live

14. sazzie on November 6th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
This is just so sad. To be persecuted for your religion!! I think texas continues to act in a stupid way, then they should put all the girls who are expecting and live with their boyfriends and put them in jail!!!
I insist, they put this Juno movie showing how two teenagers have sex and deal with the pregnancy, but… they persecute people for getting married at 15, Thank G’d they dont live in Meah shearim, or even in brookling, cause then we could be the next!!!!!!!!!

15. Maayan on November 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
If you have read the history of Joseph Smith, after seeking help from all the governments of the land -clear up to the president- and being refused protection, H.F. told Joseph that now it would go up to the Highest Courts. In other words, they are now in the hands of H.F. and He will judge righteously.

16. JustMe on November 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I love the attitude of the FLDS woman as reported in Christmas Jacobs’ Nov. 6 1:22 pm post and I love it for a number of reasons, but primarily because it shows that this FLDS woman (and perhaps others in the FLDS as well) understand that the FLDS folks are a distinct people–a sub-culture–in the larger society and that they understand that when the larger society persecutes them and tries to get them to conform to the larger society’s views, that the larger society is not necessarily right. This also shows (at least to me) that many (maybe most or all) in the FLDS have a strong sense of who they are and a strong desire to remain as they are, along with a strong sense of self-worth and self-respect, and that they are not particularly bothered when outsiders try to smear them. Frankly, it’s like when outsiders throughout history tried to smear Jews. The Jews just circled their wagons and got stronger as a people for it. They knew the smears weren’t coming from their people, but from outsiders who were trying to destroy them. The FLDS men who are convicted will become martyrs to their people and the FLDS will get stronger. Bank on it. No one in the FLDS believes that any of these men or women did anything wrong at all, and they didn’t. History will show that.

17. Bob on November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
So I asked her why it was so necessaryfor them to lose in Walther’s court to win in a higher court.
She just gives me thi odd look and says - ” Walther claims our property belongs to the state of Texas. We had to lose a man in her courtroom to appeal to the higher courts for our own religious records. Raymond is more thasn willing to do that. ”

They’re manner of “fighting” beats anything I’ve ever seen - and I guess its one reason they eventually win out - nobody else thinks like they do so they can’t really tell what they’re gonna do next.

18. Christmas Jacobs on November 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I asked my FLDS coworker how she felt about the conviction.

“Just Fine”, she answered. “Some of the finest men I know have neen convicted for their beliefs including my Grandfather, many of the Mormon prophets, and the savior. Raymond is a fine man. He will lose nothing in all of this. When it comes to the courts, we had to lose in Walther’s court in order to win in a higher court.”

I wish I could feel as “just fine” about it as she seems to. - I can understand what she’s saying but……

19. Christmas Jacobs on November 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
In the history of all mankind, Riki, there has never been a society that did not persecute someone else.

Even the Hippies were not perfect, they hated disco.

20. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Here’s a very short list:

Queen Victoria Only three years after taking the throne, Victoria took her first vow and married her cousin Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

Charles Darwin Married his first cousin, Emma Wedgwood

Albert Einstein Einstein’s wife was born Elsa Einstein and was Elsa Loewenthal at the time of their marriage (the second for both of them). They were double cousins - first on his mother’s side and second on his father’s

Jerry Lee Lewis Married his second cousin Myra Gale Brown (1953-) in 1957. He was 22 or 23 and she was 13 or 14, depending on which account you believe, and it was his third marriage

Franklin D. Roosevelt FDR, the longest serving US president in history married his cousin (not a first cousin, however they shared the same last name)

Sir John A. MacDonald Married his first cousin, Isabella Clark (1811 - 1857)
Jessie James Married his first cousin, Zerelda Mims after a nine-year courtship

Christopher Robin Known to all the world as Christopher Robin for the character in his father’s writings, married his first cousin Lesley de Selincourt in 1949

Rudy Giuliani Married his second cousin Regina Peruggi in 1968. When they separated after 14 years, he used this fact to obtain an annullment from the Roman Catholic church (they did not have a dispensation to marry)

Edgar Allen Poe Married his cousin Virginia Clemm (1822-1847)

Mary and Joseph Please see our Religion Page for more information

Prophet Muhammad Married cousin Zaynab bint Jahsh
Aemilia Lanyer Married a musician cousin, Alfonso Lanyer (in October, 1592)

Jean Sebastien Bach Married his cousin Maria Barbara Bach in 1707. She died 1720. They had seven children including Wilhelm Friedemann and Carl Philipp Emmanuel

H.G. Wells Married his first cousin, Isabel Mary Wells

Werner von Braun Married his first cousin Maria von Quirstorp. He was 35, she was 18

21. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Bill, the persecution of the Jews goes back millennia, not just to the Holocaust.

And Judith, not everyone held or executed by the Nazis was a Jew. Many Americans have non-Jewish relatives who were also persecuted by them.

And besides, the lies told by the State about the FLDS, the way the Raid was carried out, the imprisonment of the women & children in filthy places was straight out of Hitler’s playbook.

22. Riki on November 6th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Hmmm. One comment on here said “Don’t marry your cousin.” It was apparently a dimwitted attempt, by an obvious porch banjo playing woman, to say that such a marriage will lead to children who are dumb. If that’s what was intended, it’s the usual simplistic view of such things. Actually, marrying your cousin is a pretty good survival strategy for the genes that they both possess. And, remember, it’s not the consanguinity that is a problem, but, rather, if both carry recessive genes for, say, “dumbness” then children are more likely to inherit them. Of course, if both carry recessive genes for “smartness” the children are more likely to inherit those. Check the marriage records of some of our historical geniuses and you’ll see that their mothers and fathers were cousins.

23. Bob on November 6th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Judith,

Obviously, you don’t know the depravity of those who run this country. Just ask a Branch Davidian, an Iraqi, an Afghani, Sam Weaver (a 14 year-old boy shot in the back by the FBI), Vicki Weaver (an innocent woman executed while holding her baby), or any of the other millions of innocent people that were made just as dead as the Jews in the Nazi holocaust, but at the hands of our government.

Brighter people might wonder how the so-called victim in this case feels about loosing her husband and the father of her children. How must it feel to have the Nazis, I mean Texans, take your spouse away to a prison camp? Do Mormons not feel the pain that Jews felt in having a loved one separated from their company?

The only thing that gives me comfort is knowing that the evil bastards that want to destroy me, along with the Constitutional principle I hold dear, also want to destroy idiots like Judith who think they are safe. I take comfort in knowing that you, Judith, will be a much easier target than me. You’re too dumb to even see it coming. Hold your head high, Judith, by all means, hold your head high.

24. Brent Hartman on November 6th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Bill: If barbie called in the lawyers to explain what was going on, she did it in the blink of an eye with the lawyers standing next to her.

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If she was removed because of a defense objection after the trial started, then Raymond’s lawyers didn’t know of the relationship until Brooke pointed it out. So why didn’t this juror mention it during jury selection? What was her purpose? To regale the jury with evidence her husband shared with her from the grand jury? Stuff the prosecution couldn’t get into an actual trial?

25. Julie on November 6th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Judith,

Your comments is why the anti-polygamy organizations should be listed as hate groups. Your hatred is of a culture/race - it has NOTHING to do with a few crimes within the culture.

As for comparing Texas to the Nazis, it’s a perfect example.

If Texans were truly educated, the would understand what happens over time when you prosecute minorities. FYI Judith, this doesn’t make children more likely comply with laws, it makes them more likely to have direct contempt of the laws. Read your history this is what happens.

Look at the two riots in Southern California - combine poverty with discrimination and you have a perfect recipe for raising violent youth.

Like I said I don’t think you will see any extremist behavior from the FLDS adults - they had their children taken away and didn’t fight back - so that proves they are peaceful.

The children growing up with this persecution are a whole different story.

Now, I’m not saying this is good, it’s a lose/lose for everyone.

Just like Bush said it wasn’t going to be another Vietnam, people refuse to look at history.

26. * on November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Judith - I’m sure if you have something of import/worth to share, you can do it without hurling insults.

27. sazzie on November 6th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Bill - a while back someone said something about the area being a small county. I personally think the impact would be the greatest if some of these fine men/women from the ranch registered to vote, ran for office and elect some of your FLDS community so that their voice is heard.

I understand the reluctance to “get in the system” but you can only change it from the inside.

Just a thought.

28. sazzie on November 6th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Hearsay Rule? Texas has a Hearsay Rule? Does barbie know that?

29. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Riki! I know that….notice I said *president* I didn’t say names jus president

30. pins on November 6th, 2009 at 10:11 am
I find it real strange that Brooke was also blindsided by the removal of juror number 12.

If barbie called in the lawyers to explain what was going on, she did it in the blink of an eye with the lawyers standing next to her.

31. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 10:09 am
I have one huge problem with my Jewish brothers and sisters;

For whatever reason, they seem to think that the Jewish suffering takes precedent over everyone else’s.

Tell that to the Gypsies in the death camps. Tell that to the Russians. Tell that to the residents of Nanking.

I have hundreds, if not thousands of Jewish friends and I appealed to many of them to speak up about the persecution of the Mormon children. With the exception of one friend in Mexico, the Jewish community didn’t want to get involved.

How soon they forget.

32. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 10:07 am
I’m told otherwise

I never doubted that; however, that’s why there is a hearsay rule.

33. Ron in Houston on November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Pins, Obama didn’t say anything during the 2008 Raid because he wasn’t the President. And they did try to enlist the help of W, but were ignored.

34. Riki on November 6th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Recommendation for all you ppl out there reading; Carolyn’s, Ellissa’s, Brent’s, Flora’s, book etc!
ATTN; Betty, Cloemitchell(slt), TMB, ron in wherever land,Natalie barbie, and all the big boys of the states!
There is a book to recommend that’s called……Fate of Persecutors of saints in Navoon.

After reading it tell us what you think then!

35. george on November 6th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Brent, your comment:
“This country is soon going to make the German Nazis look like underachievers”

shows that you obviously didn’t lose any family in the Holocaust. Although I can understand that whatever personal grievances you’ve experienced in life seem enormous in your own mind.

In this case, your side might have done better if there were brighter people in it. Don’t marry your cousin.

36. Judith on November 6th, 2009 at 9:36 am
I’m told otherwise, but we’ll know for sure today because they intend to ask barbie why the juror was replaced.

37. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 9:26 am
The Ranch says that the lawyers knew nothing about any juror being removed prior to the verdict coming back in.

It didn’t happen that way. Raymond’s lawyers knew about it.

38. Ron in Houston on November 6th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Ron: However, it could have very well been some objection by the defense that the state agreed to which would then make it a non-issue.

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Yep. No way did Walther do this on her own. And it would be a poor appeal anyway. Why would Raymond want a new trial on the same basis when he can get every bit of evidence thrown out, not only for himself, but for everyone?

39. Julie on November 6th, 2009 at 9:18 am
The Ranch says that the lawyers knew nothing about any juror being removed prior to the verdict coming back in.

Is that legal in Texas?

There’s a hearing this morning, and the State wants to present a few dozen characters against Raymond on Monday.

One of them might be Brower, but he’s busy trying to get his son out of jail for Cruelty to Animals. Sammy boy must have taught his son some of the tricks he accused the FLDS of when it came to slitting cows throats, and killing dogs.

I suggested that the Jury get a real good peek at Janet, “The Child”, but the Ranch is afraid the State will use her testimony to solidify Bigamy charges against Raymond.

In my view, they claim she is a child, not married to Raymond to prosecute him for rape, so they cannot turn on a dime and say she was married to him. If she was his wife, she was not raped at her age.

I asked about bail on appeal. The way barbie leaped at getting the goons to put him in irons and off to jail, it looks like she will deny bail, but that’s appeal able based upon the HIGH LIKELIHOOD that his Appeal will be successful.

My suggestion to the Ranch is that each and every one of the “Disputed minors” pay the Jury a visit and explain to the Jury how Raymond supported and helped them when they were being held captive as “Children”.

He also did a ton of work around Eldorado, so there just might be a few honest people in that shithole who are honest.

40. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Substituted jurors are big deals that often generate issues on appeal.

However, it could have very well been some objection by the defense that the state agreed to which would then make it a non-issue.

It’s just too soon to tell.

41. Ron in Houston on November 6th, 2009 at 8:22 am
pins,

This country is soon going to make the German Nazis look like underachievers.

42. Brent Hartman on November 6th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Bill could you provide an address or phone number so I can offer my support?

43. THOMAS on November 6th, 2009 at 3:05 am
What I don’t understand is…..why would the president send his prayers and understanding to the families who was targeted with todays shooting,or other shootings, state fires that destroy homes, hurricane damage, etc!
………but when the FLDS was raided last year *he the kind loving & good president,
that he SUPPOSELY claim be & wanting to help*

WOULD NOT GIVE THE TIME OR DAY TO HELP OR ACKNOWLEDGE THERE WAS PROBLEM!!!!

Is this really America? Or Germany?

44. pins on November 6th, 2009 at 2:31 am
I have no experience with this jury deciding the sentence. In New York, you got “Maximum John” Klien, who gave everybody 25 to life regardless of the crime.

I think it will take a year or so for the Appeal to go through, but I can’t imagine the Jury giving him more than 5 years. There IS NO VICTIM HERE.

45. Bill on November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Hopefully they make the punishment fit the crime- since there isn’t a victim, then no crime- time served!

46. WC on November 6th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Haleleujah! Now we’re getting somewhere!

This big mess can now get out of Walther’s courtroom.

This “win” is not going to do TX anymore good than all Wisn’s “wins” did him in Lindberg’s court.
However, they have provided very important fuel and evidence to the defense for their upcoming suits.

I have no doubt Raymond will be a lot better off with any liars and theives he may encounter in jail than the crew who have spent the last year n a half (and millions of dollars) trying to get him a couple years probation.

I for one was incredibly impressed with the work done by the FLDS defense team! I have no doubt this case will make important history. Even though Walther’s tied both hands behind their back an blindfolded them, they got in some tremendous licks.

As for Janet, she (thru word and picture) testified before the jury of her complete satisfaction with her married life already - they saw she was content but they chose to punish her and her child by their verdict. No, this was never about her and her baby anyway. -It was just to satisfy their pride and the opinions of their friends and neighbors.

47. Christmas Jacobs on November 6th, 2009 at 12:00 am
I wonder which side had all references to polygamy removed from the church documents presented at trial. The state seems to be avoiding any mention of the religious practices of the church at all costs.

Perhaps the alleged victim will take the stand at Raymonds sentencing and explain to the jury that she is not a victim but is in fact the mans wife in accordinance with the couples religious beliefs.

48. zxcvbnm on November 5th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Very curious development:

One of the Juror’s was replaced during deliberations by an Alternate.

Why?

49. Bill on November 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
The Jury will decide his sentence. That’s something I’m sure that erks the shit out of barbie.

My question is: Can “The Victim” of this sexual assault address the Jury?

I’m sure if it was a women screaming rape, barbie would carry her into the Court on her back, but how anxious is barbie going to be to have Janet talking to the Jury?

As far as “Victim impact” is concerned, I would parade a dozen adult women from the Ranch who gave birth at 15 or 16 in front of the Jury to explain their religion to them.

The Jury needs to see that in this instance, there IS NO VICTIM.

51. Bill on November 5th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Yes, he could have presented a better defense. I think the outcome might have been different if Janet had taken the stand. She could have easily taken the 5th to any question the prosecutor asked. When the defense asked her questions, she could have made it very clear to the jury that she did not consider herself to be a victim of sexual assault. I think she should have told the jury that the prosecutor was insulting and degrading her by implying that she was too stupid to know if she had been raped or not.

52. Cupcake on November 5th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
From what I’ve read, the defense did a
workmanlike job of lawyering; but as I
wrote before, this was not a difficult case
to prosecute and needed more than
workmanlike lawyering for a defense. Any right thinking
person understands that the back story
is one of religious bigotry and persecution.
Those elements should have been massaged
by the defense, and hopefully in the next
trials they will be.

53. Bob on November 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

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