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OPEN LETTERS TO THE ACLU

October 16, 2009

Mr. Steven Shapiro
Legal Director
ACLU
125 Broad St.
18th Floor
NY, NY 10004

Dear Mr. Shapiro,

On October 27, a number of parents in Arkansas may permanently lose custody of their children because they refuse to make a choice between their religious beliefs and their children. You probably have heard about this case, but in the off chance you haven’t, here is a brief summary.

In two raids in September and November of 2008, thirty-six children whose parents are members of the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries Church in Fouke, Arkansas were taken into custody by the Arkansas Department of Human Services. It appears that the only “crime” the parents committed was they were associated with evangelist Tony Alamo, who was convicted this summer on sexual offenses and is waiting sentence.

This case is almost identical to the case of the mass seizure of children from the FLDS Church in Texas earlier in 2008. In both cases, the leader of the church was accused of polygamy and sexual offenses against children, and in both cases all of the children were removed from the church, regardless of whether or not there was any evidence they were abused.

There are some major differences between the two cases, however. The first one is that while the Texas ACLU came to the aid of the FLDS parents, the Arkansas ACLU has not come to the aid of the parents of Tony Alamo Christian Ministries. This is why I am writing to you. I believe that the Arkansas ACLU needs to get involved in this case. If not then I believe strongly that the national ACLU needs to get involved.

While fewer children were removed from the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries Church than from the FLDS church and the media paid less attention to the Tony Alamo Church raid, the removal of children from the Tony Alamo Church is actually a more egregious violation of civil and religious liberties. In Texas, the FLDS members while living in separate houses, all lived in one compound. In the Tony Alamo Church, some of the parents did not live on church property but lived in their own houses away from church property.

In Arkansas, unlike Texas, a judge has stated that the parents of children seized from the Tony Alamo Church, who work fulltime for the church and live on church property, must move off church property and obtain secular employment in order to regain custody of their children.

At least two families have refused to do this, believing that they are being asked to chose between their children and their religion. Two fathers have sued for an injunction in Federal Court in Texarkana but Judge Harry Barnes has not acted on the suit. Both of these fathers have worked fulltime for the church for years. They believe it is their religious duty to continue in this capacity.

None of the parents have been charged in criminal court. They deny the charges of neglect that have been brought against them in family court. It has been difficult to even ascertain what all of the charges are because the Miller County Family Court Judge, Joe Griffin, issued a gag order last year, which has made it almost impossible for the parents to discuss their cases with anyone.

However, an affidavit filed in federal court revealed some of the charges. Not only do the parents deny them all, most of the charges are mild indeed. They certainly don’t call for the termination of parental rights. Two of the charges include not vaccinating their children (the parents have received a religious exemption from the State of Arkansas), and educational neglect (the children go to a school run by the church and have tested above their grade level while in foster care).

CPS Legal Watch (http://www.cpswatchlegalteam.com/index.htm) has hired Florida civil rights attorney Phillip Kuhn to help defend these parents. Kuhn is a good attorney and has done a good job, but I believe that his case would be strengthened if the ACLU at least filed an amicus brief on behalf of the parents as the Texas ACLU did on behalf of the FLDS parents.

I have no connection with the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries. I disagree with many of their beliefs. However, I believe that the mass seizure of children from the church, children who were not abused or neglected, and the subsequent plan for reunification (i.e. leave the church and obtain secular employment) is unprecedented. From a civil liberties point of view, I believe this case is more serious than the FLDS one, even though fewer children were taken into custody, and therefore needs attention paid to it.

I respectfully request that you at least look into this case and see if it warrants the attention that I believe it does.

Thank you for reading this letter and considering my request.

Sincerely,

Daniel T. Weaver
Albany CPS & Family Court Examiner
http://www.examiner.com/x-14537-Albany-CPS-and-Family-Court-Examiner

cc: ACLU of Arkansas
904 West 2nd Street
Little Rock, AR 72201

Mr. Howard Stein, Director,

ACLU of Florida

Miami, FL

Dear Howard,

The attached was sent to Mr. Shapiro and I wanted to once again bring this travesty to your attention.

As with the FLDS situation in Texas, if the kidnapping of these children does not fit within the 4 corners of the stated purpose of the Project on Freedom of Religion and Belief, then I would like to know what does?

Once again, CPS and CASA throw out the red herring of sexual child abuse, and everybody runs for cover? Doesn’t the ACLU understand that they throw out that crap just so that they can manipulate and control their agenda?

This year, CPS Florida received a $9,000,000.00 REWARD for adopting out children. If there is every incentive to Adopt children out, and NONE to keep them with their family’s whenever possible, why would they even bother to try? More importantly, where are they continually coming up with new merchandise to sell on the adoption block?

I ask you to contact Mr. Shapiro and get Arkansas and the Project involved in this case.

Thank you,

Bill Medvecky

239-826-3831

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8 Comments so far (Add 1 more)

  1. I received emails from Mark Potok of the SPLC months ago. I told him I would not give any money to the SPLC unless he stopped persecuting the FLDS. He said he had no intention of removing the FLDS from the SPLC’s hate list because the FLDS doctrine is “blatantly racist.”

    Mr. Potok also mentioned the “Lost Boys” and said that they were very happy the SPLC lists the FLDS as a hate group. That makes me think Dan Fischer may have given a large donation to the SPLC.

    1. Cupcake on October 21st, 2009 at 1:06 pm
  2. If you take a look at their list of “Racist” organizations, not ONE of the groups is black.

    That alone does not make them very relevant, yet MSM can’t put on a big enough pair of knee pads to make them happy.

    Same with Tawanna Sharpton. Every single time he runs to the rescue of one of his poor, oppressed bros, he gets laughed out of town (Tawanna, Duke), and yet MSM makes him out like he’s the new Ghandi.

    The fact of the matter is that for the next 8 years, you better not criticize Obuma, because if you do, you’re automatically a racist.

    I’m no fan of the Republican hypocrites who slam folks for being “Immoral” and then regard the same behavior in themselves as virtuous. In the same vain, I’m no fan of pretending we have a new Lincoln in the White House when in reality we have someone who sat in a man’s “Church” for 20 years and listened to his pastor slam the white man, yet he never believed a word the man said? Can we say “Bullshit” !

    2. Bill on October 21st, 2009 at 8:15 am
  3. Southern Law Poverty should be ashamed of themselves for not standing up for the FLDS members.

    Sure some the FLDS teachings have very racist ideas - but many religions did at one time (some still do - look at Obama’s minister).

    Do they realize most of the anti-polygamy activists have called FLDS members genetic inbreeds?

    These are the people who have the police and FBI in their back pockets.

    What disgusting hypocritical organization.

    3. * on October 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
  4. I find it hard to believe that the Arkansas ACLU did not get involved in this case. I suppose we did not write enough letters complaining to the Arkansas ACLU, as we did with the Texas ACLU on behalf of the FLDS.

    4. Cupcake on October 19th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
  5. Alisunara’s comment about a social worker suggesting that the families move to a homeless shelter struck me as rather odd.

    I used to be Girl Scout leader in Georgia. My co-leader and I once took our troop to a homeless shelter. The person in charge of the homeless shelter permitted us to let the girls see where the women and children lived, but not the men. He said that some of the men were sex offenders.

    Why would a social worker recommend that the famlies move to shelters where sex offenders live? If the children got molested, raped or killed, was the social worker going to blame the parents?

    5. Cupcake on October 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
  6. I find his use of the word “compound” with regard to the FLDS to be most unfortunate. “Compound” has become the government’s word of choice for the home of anyone the state would like to imprison or kill.

    6. Jerri Lynn Ward on October 19th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
  7. Funny thing. One of the girls who supposedly suffered educational neglect is now a national honors student with CPS wanting her to join a committee in improving foster care.

    Amazing that CPS wants to terminate the parent/child relationships without the slightest proof of abuse, merely because of where the parents work for a living.

    This is interesting:

    “One Arkansas child protective services caseworker went as far to say that parents should leave the ministry and go to the Salvation Army or a homeless shelter. Attorney Kuhn’s plea for injunctive relief questions how becoming homeless is in the best interests of the children.”

    7. Alinusara10 on October 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
  8. Dan weaver has given permission to copy and paste his letter to anybody who wants to send a copy to their ACLU State head.

    This is NOT about Tony Alamo or his beliefs. It is about 36 children caught up in the most insidious forms of child abuse and neglect possible; CPS and CASA.

    CPS Texas has already placed the Mineola children with a known child sexual offender. Do we wait until Arkansas does the same?

    8. Bill on October 19th, 2009 at 11:25 am

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